StealthSpanker™ : I was hoping to see Dominants in DH for the discussion
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : Golden Dragen said He would be back Sir but His name for Halloween is GoldernMaskD
StealthSpanker™ : oh good
StealthSpanker™ : has Everyone read the blog dicussion ?
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : Yes Sir i have
total_surrender : i have Sir
StealthSpanker™ : as Shifitng has stated not many blog on how Dominants should act …. most on how a Dominant wishes a sub/slave to be ... I felt sub/slaves has feelings on this topic
«¤døxîégìr£¤» listens
StealthSpanker™ : dont just listen doxie speak plz as the rest of you
¤døxîégìr£¤» : Yes Stealth Sir
StealthSpanker™ : I feel a Dominate should act as a gentlemen 1st not a macho bully jerk, a real Dominant doesn’t have to His point is gotten across by speaking softly and Dominance comes from within
simply_s : I think they called it stating that He must have respect and honor in Himself and His behavior..how can i loo up to respect and hope to learn from One who does not respect and control HImself.. and know how to present Himself in presence of others hope that made some sense .afraid had the dog barking in my face whole time typing and not sure what i put lol
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : i feel that a Master bust have respect for Himself before He can have respest for a girl
StealthSpanker™ : a Dominate must respect Himself and control His action before He can control others
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : Being a Dominant is not about a power trip and just controlling
StealthSpanker™ : now girls other points of view you may all speak freely
chiarã : Master Stealth this girl liked when You said Dominance comes from within it is an energy One exudes...not something He needs to assert
StealthSpanker™ : oh I feel it does chiara I can go into Master Mode as I call it in a heartbeat
simply_s : if a Dom comes in "beating His chest" tossing orders and expecting a girl to jump because " I am Dom" looses me right there
total_surrender : but i think a Dom that acts like that... acts more with Pride than with Dignity
StealthSpanker™ : I’m just Me though no One special he is a wannabe in My book and a sub/slave senses a true dominant also
chiarã : and a true Dominant draws the true slave in the girl out...
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : i think that alot of times on line that people have no idea what the life style is and a lot of times that the reasons that there so many wannabes not just Dom wannabe but sub/slave wannabes too
chiarã : i agree doxie...Tthey just think it is sex fun and games
StealthSpanker™ : the LS is so much more than that many avenues to explore and not a right or wrong avenue if both want it
hetaera : The lifestyle is subjective. There is no one way.
chiarã : totally heta...i agree
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : there is no right or wrong in the lifestyle but i feel there needs to be dignity in what people do
hetaera : i think confusion lies in misrepresentation
StealthSpanker™ : and to many it is a fantasy or a game
chiarã : oh yes heta...misrepresentation... making Oone's self out to be something Oone is not
StealthSpanker™ : I really say the same statements over and over
hetaera : People are not honest with themselves about what they really want. In doing that, they deceive others.
StealthSpanker™ : I ve seen that also heta
chiarã : which always surprises me heta because a person can find whatever they want online...no need to lie and deceive to get it
hetaera : : True, chiara And some really don't know what they want. They are still exploring and discovering themselves.
simply_s : or maybe they are not sure themselves ...sometimes think they know and then find in becoming involved with others....that changes and its not what they originally thought.
hetaera : Very good point, s. We change.
StealthSpanker™ : We learn also and Im still learning surre showed Me an evil stick now Im trying to make one lol
simply_s : One thing i think is we can look at a Dom and see who He is, what He is in way carries Himself, how He behaves not just with the sub/slaves but among other Doms as well That is what i look to .
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : i thinking one think that a girl looks to a Dominate for is helping in learning and growing
StealthSpanker™ : good point a Real Dominant does not have to be a braggart
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : also i think a good quilty in a Dominate is that He can admit when they are wrong or have made a mistake
StealthSpanker™ : I make mistakes try to keep them at a minumim
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : i know i do too Sir
hetaera : Everyone makes mistakes.
chiarã : Eeveryone makes mistakes...but usually (as they say) its ot the mistake its the cover up ...LOL
StealthSpanker™ : I didnt make a mistake with dutch treat tho
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : but what i mean is that some do not want to admit them or cover them up
chiarã : yes it is all in how they are dealt with... to me anyway...
hetaera : I think the most important thing about mistakes is to expect them. Everyone is going to make them. Holding a Dominant to a high standard is a mistake. Likewise with sub/slaves.
simply_s : i don't agree heta. i hold Master to a high standard. I do not expect Him to be perfect by any means
hetaera : I've known so many who expected their Dominant to be perfect. It isn't going to happen. And vice versa.
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : no one is perfect by far
StealthSpanker™ : well going to DH or a realtionship I know Im not perfect
chiarã : very true...but dignity is not defined by not making mistakes...dignity is defined, again, in how O/one handles life
total_surrender : agree chiara
hetaera : I should have said "highest standard." Meaning, perfection.
simply_s : but i do expect Him to be a good Man, to be proud of who He is and act in fashion that would represent what He stands for …. anyone looking for perfection is living in a dream world and going to fall for any fool who can spin a pretty tale
hetaera : Agreed.
chiarã : are Wwe going to have this same discussion about sub/slave? *giggles*
freshy : i think dignity in the context of the article referenced is a sense of integrity and that's about character
hetaera : Agreed, freshy Integrity is very important to me.
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : i would agree with s if i am going to put so much trust in Someone to allow them to have control over things i do and to call me His i hold Him in a higher stander then someone else but in no way would i not think He would make mistakes
simply_s : agree doxie. as an example if i may...Sentosa and i have been friends for a couple years now. He knows i belong to Master and has always been respectful of that. When He got messenger , instead of asking if could add...He requested that i ask my Master if He would allow it, and willingly met with Master and discussed why wished to add. To me , that He would suggest my asking at all showed One who was secure in Himself, who was willing to stand up and be who He is with nothing to hide.
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : i agree s
hetaera : Those actions speak volumes.
simply_s : i know others who if was even suggested by me that i had to ask before adding, would say never mind, let alone talk to Master about doing so. For me that is sign of a Dom who walks the walk ...and is true to what He believes
chiarã : that is a true testament to who He is s...thank You for sharing that
simply_s : *smiles* Master and i both count Him as a friend, ...and thank You Sentosa Sir for allowing her to use Your friendship as an example of what was trying to explain
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : its a very big sign of Someone that walks the talk
total_surrender : As it relates to the blog post... the issue of maintaining dignity in an M/s or D/s relationship... i think it is about being true to what the relationship is about and respectful to the relationship even when the other P/partner is not there.... a submissive that acts in a way she knows is respectful to her Master even though he may never know about it
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : that is true surre
hetaera : Agreed, total. And a Dominant that holds true to the nature of His relationship as well, I really appreciate a Dominant who can maintain self control, even when faced with a trying situation.
total_surrender : in all honesty it is hard to always maintain ones pride... but ones dignity should not be compromised.
hetaera : That's difficult to do. But it shows a great deal about those who can actually do it.
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : that is true surre
total_surrender : one example i can give... is when i was collared to Kirk, we had company... a Dominant friend and his new submissive. Kirk, used me as his foot stool... she later told me she thought it was disgusting that he did that in front of people...
freshy : i think dignity in the context of the article referenced is a sense of integrity and that's about character
hetaera : Agreed, freshy Integrity is very important to me.
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : i would agree with s if i am going to put so much trust in Someone to allow them to have control over things i do and to call me His i hold Him in a higher stander then someone else but in no way would i not think He would make mistakes
simply_s : agree doxie. as an example if i may...Sentosa and i have been friends for a couple years now. He knows i belong to Master and has always been respectful of that. When He got messenger , instead of asking if could add...He requested that i ask my Master if He would allow it, and willingly met with Master and discussed why wished to add. To me , that He would suggest my asking at all showed One who was secure in Himself, who was willing to stand up and be who He is with nothing to hide.
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : i agree s
hetaera : Those actions speak volumes.
simply_s : i know others who if was even suggested by me that i had to ask before adding, would say never mind, let alone talk to Master about doing so. For me that is sign of a Dom who walks the walk ...and is true to what He believes
chiarã : that is a true testament to who He is s...thank You for sharing that
simply_s : *smiles* Master and i both count Him as a friend, ...and thank You Sentosa Sir for allowing her to use Your friendship as an example of what was trying to explain
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : its a very big sign of Someone that walks the talk
total_surrender : As it relates to the blog post... the issue of maintaining dignity in an M/s or D/s relationship... i think it is about being true to what the relationship is about and respectful to the relationship even when the other P/partner is not there.... a submissive that acts in a way she knows is respectful to her Master even though he may never know about it
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : that is true surre
hetaera : Agreed, total. And a Dominant that holds true to the nature of His relationship as well, I really appreciate a Dominant who can maintain self control, even when faced with a trying situation.
total_surrender : in all honesty it is hard to always maintain ones pride... but ones dignity should not be compromised.
hetaera : That's difficult to do. But it shows a great deal about those who can actually do it.
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : that is true surre
total_surrender : one example i can give... is when i was collared to Kirk, we had company... a Dominant friend and his new submissive. Kirk, used me as his foot stool... she later told me she thought it was disgusting that he did that in front of people...
simply_s : One who knows what needs to be controlled and "handled" without having to micromanage
hetaera nods to total.
total_surrender : i never thought of it that way at all... because it was between He and I not He and i and the rest of the world
freshy : i think it's possible to feel like we really 'know' someone when we know their character-and then trust is possible. real trust that's full of faith (even faith that surmounts logical doubt and questioning when we fail or fall short of expectations...ours of ourselves...or of significant others.
chiarã : that would be what is most important suree...how you and HE feel about it
total_surrender : also... He never had to tell me what to wear... my first question each time i dressed was... would he find this pleasing and proper if the answer was even a not sure... it was no and i changed... i did not need him to tell me right from wrong... at every turn
simply_s : agree chiara, it is easy to sit back and say how could T/they....but it is THEIR relationship.....you are not in it, you do not play a part of it other then observer regardless of how good a friend might be.
total_surrender : what i see very often... is a submissive pouting or acting out in public and a Dominant giving in... to avoid a public confrontation
StealthSpanker™ : personally I feel the girl who felt it was disgusting to be furiture should have kept her mouth shut
chiarã : agree Master Stealth
total_surrender : agree and i told her so
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : i agree
StealthSpanker™ : good for you surre
freshy in fairness she was a 'new' sub heh
simply_s : nods, perhaps for her and her Master that was the case. then fine dont do so...but this is surre and her Master....they will decide what is right for them
«¤døxîégìr£¤» can see surre tell her that too
total_surrender : i told her if she found that disgusting she likely would not be happy visiting often...
total_surrender : i think people confuse pride... and dignity... like i said... dignity in a girl is a good thing... pride can only lead to destruction
SirUlrichvonLichenstein : how was the discussion
simply_s : is still going on Master
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : its going well Sir Ulrich
lpprincess : i have to disagree with you surr. I've always been a proud person because I have much to be proud of. if I wasn't, i would have nothing to strive for in my life and would be a waste of cells
total_surrender : i am very proud that i went to law school... that i am a good mother... that i am a loyal friend
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : there nothing wrong with being proud of what you have done in life.
freshy : i found the part about a Dominant not compromising His/Her freedoms as an aspect of having dignity interesting
total_surrender : dignity is acting out of self-respect or respect for the relationship... where pride is doing something to show off or for the sake of appearances
donna69 : i have no dignity
total_surrender : : ~looking~ why would you say that donna
freshy : i also liked integrity as a form of dignity-and therefore dignity as having a code One lives by. and that's more constitutional in a person than a disposition of respect.
donna69 : i dont respect myself
total_surrender : why not?
donna69 : i dont use my own thoughts i do as im told when im told and to please another ill do almost anything
lpprincess : donna, are you a new sub?
donna69 : no was owned a long time
total_surrender : well i was Kirks slave... he turned me into His whore... a toy for his friends to play with... He shared me with others... and i did as i was told when i was told for 16 years... but i respected myself always because i did as He desired... and that is all that mattered … did other respect me? …. i do not care …. He did and i did
total_surrender : my life is not about pleasing others... only about pleasing One... one can respect themself... no matter what they do for their Owner it is not about what others think... if pleasing your Owner is your goal... and you do that... you should respect yourself
donna69 : i was taught to please others
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : if you can not respect yourself how can you expect for a Dom to respect you
total_surrender : i am not a slave to please others... but we are off topic
donna69 : i am sorry
total_surrender : it is ok...
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : i am not saying that surre but i feel that there should be some level of respect for ones self or the Dom not going to feel the slave going to respect Him or what He wants
total_surrender : i maintain dignity in my relationship... when i respect who i am and who my Master is and do not worry about what the outside world thinks when we begin to worry about what others think... it is difficult to maintain dignity in the relationship
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : i agree surre that is a great point
hetaera nods to total.
total_surrender : i never thought of it that way at all... because it was between He and I not He and i and the rest of the world
freshy : i think it's possible to feel like we really 'know' someone when we know their character-and then trust is possible. real trust that's full of faith (even faith that surmounts logical doubt and questioning when we fail or fall short of expectations...ours of ourselves...or of significant others.
chiarã : that would be what is most important suree...how you and HE feel about it
total_surrender : also... He never had to tell me what to wear... my first question each time i dressed was... would he find this pleasing and proper if the answer was even a not sure... it was no and i changed... i did not need him to tell me right from wrong... at every turn
simply_s : agree chiara, it is easy to sit back and say how could T/they....but it is THEIR relationship.....you are not in it, you do not play a part of it other then observer regardless of how good a friend might be.
total_surrender : what i see very often... is a submissive pouting or acting out in public and a Dominant giving in... to avoid a public confrontation
StealthSpanker™ : personally I feel the girl who felt it was disgusting to be furiture should have kept her mouth shut
chiarã : agree Master Stealth
total_surrender : agree and i told her so
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : i agree
StealthSpanker™ : good for you surre
freshy in fairness she was a 'new' sub heh
simply_s : nods, perhaps for her and her Master that was the case. then fine dont do so...but this is surre and her Master....they will decide what is right for them
«¤døxîégìr£¤» can see surre tell her that too
total_surrender : i told her if she found that disgusting she likely would not be happy visiting often...
total_surrender : i think people confuse pride... and dignity... like i said... dignity in a girl is a good thing... pride can only lead to destruction
SirUlrichvonLichenstein : how was the discussion
simply_s : is still going on Master
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : its going well Sir Ulrich
lpprincess : i have to disagree with you surr. I've always been a proud person because I have much to be proud of. if I wasn't, i would have nothing to strive for in my life and would be a waste of cells
total_surrender : i am very proud that i went to law school... that i am a good mother... that i am a loyal friend
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : there nothing wrong with being proud of what you have done in life.
freshy : i found the part about a Dominant not compromising His/Her freedoms as an aspect of having dignity interesting
total_surrender : dignity is acting out of self-respect or respect for the relationship... where pride is doing something to show off or for the sake of appearances
donna69 : i have no dignity
total_surrender : : ~looking~ why would you say that donna
freshy : i also liked integrity as a form of dignity-and therefore dignity as having a code One lives by. and that's more constitutional in a person than a disposition of respect.
donna69 : i dont respect myself
total_surrender : why not?
donna69 : i dont use my own thoughts i do as im told when im told and to please another ill do almost anything
lpprincess : donna, are you a new sub?
donna69 : no was owned a long time
total_surrender : well i was Kirks slave... he turned me into His whore... a toy for his friends to play with... He shared me with others... and i did as i was told when i was told for 16 years... but i respected myself always because i did as He desired... and that is all that mattered … did other respect me? …. i do not care …. He did and i did
total_surrender : my life is not about pleasing others... only about pleasing One... one can respect themself... no matter what they do for their Owner it is not about what others think... if pleasing your Owner is your goal... and you do that... you should respect yourself
donna69 : i was taught to please others
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : if you can not respect yourself how can you expect for a Dom to respect you
total_surrender : i am not a slave to please others... but we are off topic
donna69 : i am sorry
total_surrender : it is ok...
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : i am not saying that surre but i feel that there should be some level of respect for ones self or the Dom not going to feel the slave going to respect Him or what He wants
total_surrender : i maintain dignity in my relationship... when i respect who i am and who my Master is and do not worry about what the outside world thinks when we begin to worry about what others think... it is difficult to maintain dignity in the relationship
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : i agree surre that is a great point
freshy : i still think we're stuck on respect. dignity-as referenced in the article-is about principles.
hetaera : A dignified dominant to me is one who has integrity, one who maintains self control, one who treats others with respect, one who is not judgmental, one who does not possess a superiority complex, one who keeps his word, and remains faithful to what he agreed upon in his relationship.
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : may i ask a question
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : surely doxie
~Ѽ_đŗaċulāŗâ_Ѽ~ : i agree with you heta, though i am barely awake so i had to read it a couple times before commenting.
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : i was wondering what this phrase meant to Everyone? dignity-as referenced in the article-is about principles …. and what kind of principles
total_surrender : the discussion was... As a point of discussion, how do you define the issue of maintaining dignity as it relates to D/s or M/s? No?
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : Tanos says in His article ......Dignity, and the need to avoid undignified behaviour, are guiding principles for owners and dominants.... is what she was referring to doxie
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : thank you Sir
total_surrender : ~is confused by what everyone is talking about
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : in response to your comment surre ... I'd say that maintaining dignity is not always a cut and dried issue ....
hetaera : A dignified dominant to me is one who has integrity, one who maintains self control, one who treats others with respect, one who is not judgmental, one who does not possess a superiority complex, one who keeps his word, and remains faithful to what he agreed upon in his relationship.
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : may i ask a question
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : surely doxie
~Ѽ_đŗaċulāŗâ_Ѽ~ : i agree with you heta, though i am barely awake so i had to read it a couple times before commenting.
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : i was wondering what this phrase meant to Everyone? dignity-as referenced in the article-is about principles …. and what kind of principles
total_surrender : the discussion was... As a point of discussion, how do you define the issue of maintaining dignity as it relates to D/s or M/s? No?
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : Tanos says in His article ......Dignity, and the need to avoid undignified behaviour, are guiding principles for owners and dominants.... is what she was referring to doxie
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : thank you Sir
total_surrender : ~is confused by what everyone is talking about
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : in response to your comment surre ... I'd say that maintaining dignity is not always a cut and dried issue ....
total_surrender : i agree Sir as i was saying earlier...
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : the examples given by Tanos are pretty clear ... practicing honesty for instance or the lack of effort He mentions can be defined fairly easily I suppose
~Ѽ_đŗaċulāŗâ_Ѽ~ : Perhaps the common principles across the board doxie...such as treating ppl kindly and being well spoken and standing for your beliefs.
total_surrender : but when you take only the context of maintaining dignity of the relationship... that is much clearer Sir... because it take everything except the T/two out of the picture
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : when looking at the dignity of the relationship each Pperson in the relationship has a role in that
SirUlrichvonLichenstein : Each person has a role in it in the sense that each is responsible for bringing their dignity with them Dignity is personal, doxie
freshy : in a way i don't want that to be true doxie-because i don't want what He will or won't compromise on to depend on what i think or feel or do (even if that's wishful thinkin')
total_surrender : yes it is...
freshy : oops. sorry Sir. didn't mean to interject
SirUlrichvonLichenstein : And its not something apart from-- rather it is connected to everything you do and say. Its how you live. You don't have to be well spoken
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : yes Sir
SirUlrichvonLichenstein : you can be plain spoken and still have dignity, one of the most dignified Men I know pushed a mop around the grad school
total_surrender : that is very true...
SirUlrichvonLichenstein : but when he spoke if you were smart you listened he had seen a lot its what you are every day not just on Sundays or when others are watching matters not Thats dignity as I see it.
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : Thank You Sir for sharing
total_surrender : but how would you define "the dignity of the relationship" Sir?
SirUlrichvonLichenstein : I am not sure I would use that term. Perhaps the sanctity of the relationship, or respect for the relationship, but dignity? shrugs
total_surrender : i think that is why i am having trouble with the topic... because things i would do within the confines of a M/s relationship... are far different than things i would do outside of it if i went to work and someone called me a whore... i would be offended and it would be an undignified thing for someone to do... but with-in the relationship... dignity is different... at least on some issues
SirUlrichvonLichenstein : so context matters not the term whore itself?
simply_s : think who is sayinng matters as well
total_surrender : i have no trouble with being called a whore... depending on who is doing the calling and why
SirUlrichvonLichenstein : What I call My sub/slave has little to do with dignity
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : that how i feel surre
total_surrender : i agree Sir...
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : and I certainly agree
SirUlrichvonLichenstein : It has to do with Our bond
total_surrender : that is why talking about dignity inside the relationship and outside of it... is very different that is why i was confused by the discussion as it was being lead...
SirUlrichvonLichenstein : what We understand and are comfortable with not the rest of the world
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : right surre
simply_s : very true...what Master calls me is not something i would accept Another calling me.
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : exactly
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : the examples given by Tanos are pretty clear ... practicing honesty for instance or the lack of effort He mentions can be defined fairly easily I suppose
~Ѽ_đŗaċulāŗâ_Ѽ~ : Perhaps the common principles across the board doxie...such as treating ppl kindly and being well spoken and standing for your beliefs.
total_surrender : but when you take only the context of maintaining dignity of the relationship... that is much clearer Sir... because it take everything except the T/two out of the picture
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : when looking at the dignity of the relationship each Pperson in the relationship has a role in that
SirUlrichvonLichenstein : Each person has a role in it in the sense that each is responsible for bringing their dignity with them Dignity is personal, doxie
freshy : in a way i don't want that to be true doxie-because i don't want what He will or won't compromise on to depend on what i think or feel or do (even if that's wishful thinkin')
total_surrender : yes it is...
freshy : oops. sorry Sir. didn't mean to interject
SirUlrichvonLichenstein : And its not something apart from-- rather it is connected to everything you do and say. Its how you live. You don't have to be well spoken
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : yes Sir
SirUlrichvonLichenstein : you can be plain spoken and still have dignity, one of the most dignified Men I know pushed a mop around the grad school
total_surrender : that is very true...
SirUlrichvonLichenstein : but when he spoke if you were smart you listened he had seen a lot its what you are every day not just on Sundays or when others are watching matters not Thats dignity as I see it.
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : Thank You Sir for sharing
total_surrender : but how would you define "the dignity of the relationship" Sir?
SirUlrichvonLichenstein : I am not sure I would use that term. Perhaps the sanctity of the relationship, or respect for the relationship, but dignity? shrugs
total_surrender : i think that is why i am having trouble with the topic... because things i would do within the confines of a M/s relationship... are far different than things i would do outside of it if i went to work and someone called me a whore... i would be offended and it would be an undignified thing for someone to do... but with-in the relationship... dignity is different... at least on some issues
SirUlrichvonLichenstein : so context matters not the term whore itself?
simply_s : think who is sayinng matters as well
total_surrender : i have no trouble with being called a whore... depending on who is doing the calling and why
SirUlrichvonLichenstein : What I call My sub/slave has little to do with dignity
«¤døxîégìr£¤» : that how i feel surre
total_surrender : i agree Sir...
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : and I certainly agree
SirUlrichvonLichenstein : It has to do with Our bond
total_surrender : that is why talking about dignity inside the relationship and outside of it... is very different that is why i was confused by the discussion as it was being lead...
SirUlrichvonLichenstein : what We understand and are comfortable with not the rest of the world
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : right surre
simply_s : very true...what Master calls me is not something i would accept Another calling me.
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : exactly
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Just testing to make sure anyone can respond to the post
ok just testing
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