»†«phøéb뻆« : so SW the topic earlier was kinky movies such as the secretary
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : ahh
»†«phøéb뻆« : which would be appropriate for nilla people to be introduced to the lifestyle and other options
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : well I always recommend an old classic ... Behind the Green Door
»†«phøéb뻆« : behind the green door? … havent heard of that movie
Sciicure : its a porno from the 70's
«heta»♥Atën : i like 9 1/2 Weeks.
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : It is an old Adult film starring Marilyn Chambers .... it marked a significant change in adult films because it actually had a plot and storyline ... and Marilyn was maybe the first superstar in the industry … she also, as an infant, was the child on Ivory Snow
freshy : she gets kidnapped right?
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : yes she does freshy ... and is taken to a place where she is immersed in sensual and erotic stimulation … both men and women, mostly just lots of touching and kissing …. then lead her out into what could be a small theater in the round, quite provocative and lots of ritualism in it
»†«phøéb뻆« : that sounds cool and quite delicious to watch
Sciicure : Caligula was another movie from roughly the same time period that had a big impact on the mainstream
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : yup that was another that garnered attention
freshy : i lost some innocence just watching Caligula lol
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : slowly over the course of the evening her resistance diminishes as her carnal instincts become more and more titillated as she becomes more and more active and participatory the camera scans the audience as they watch and are also turned on and enjoy themselves as well
freshy : "slowly her resistence dimished as her carnal instincts became more titilated" haaave mercy
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : lol well, that is what happens
»†«phøéb뻆« : i must seek that movie out
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : I believe it is available on DVD
Sciicure : or you can rip it from the internet
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : what I like about it ... putting aside the kidnap/forced aspect is that it nicely depicts the open scene aspect within a group, makes use of ritualism, and is appreciative of sensuality as part of the erotic experience, Marilyn went on to write, direct, and produce as well as star in her films
»†«phøéb뻆« : nods
freshy : ritualism is a great topic
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : I like rituals Myself freshy
freshy : me too … what kinds of rituals? … or maybe we could talk about kinds of rituals
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : well ... such as greetings, serves of course ..... ummm ... silent commands ... things activities that enhance and would define that the day is done and now she and I are free to be in station
«heta»♥Atën : My previous r/l Owner had me recite a mantra every night before bed and first thing in the morning…. Well, that's a ritual …. thought she would throw something specific out there.
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : nods good example
Sciicure : its a good one it can be anything
«heta»♥Atën : agreed Greeting Him on her knees at the door everyday when He arrives.
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : for Me it can be the most subtle thing that acknowledges the D/s of the relationship
Sciicure : I instruct how to cut and light my cigars for me
¤navy¤ has cut 2....but hasn't lit any yet.... i might enjoy the nicotine to much.....
Sciicure : you toasted them, thats the same thing
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : there are just times and situations when the D/s part of a relationship cannot be public, or blatant at least, subtle gestures do nicely to actualize it
Sciicure : Davidoffs are an expensive habit
«heta»♥Atën : True, Shifting Sir.
zĩva : agreess with SW Sir
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : On Friday nights, when I was there ahead of her, I would have My girl stop in the hallway, drop her briefcase and anything else she was carrying, lock the door, then proceed to remove her clothes and crawl into the living room where I would be sitting … it was a nice way to symbolically close out the rest of the world
freshy :
zĩva : a very nice way indeed Sir
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : or if W/we were attending a gathering, I would bathe her, watch her fix her hair, apply makeup, sometimes making suggestions or giving instructions, and then dress her
«heta»♥Atën : That is lovely, Shifting Sir.
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : so freshy ... you're turn ... any rituals you like?
freshy : i like rituals that focus me on the Other totally-center me that way. like giving a foot bath and massage when He comes home. methodically.
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : ahhh
»†«phøéb뻆« : rituals are definitely calming
«heta»♥Atën : agrees.
Alchum : anything good takes time and care.
freshy : for a time i fantasized about rituals that began with being flogged . i tried to figure out what drove that but i never did figure out why that was imperative. i think-in retrospect-it had to do with having no choice but to shut the world out-internally-but i still don't really know.
Alchum : Innnnnteresting...
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : all of that makes sense
«heta»♥Atën : Yes... to be quiet internally.
Alchum : something that focused you - brought you into a clearer thought.
freshy : singular thought
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : Now I might do something using a flogger ... not really whip you ... but to pet, brush ... leave the implied threat dangling ... as I told you all those things
Sciicure : coupled with 4 words whispered in your ear
♠₣яέέ·Şŏŋŋỹ♠ : to fill the room with scents that calm...lights that are easy on the eyes...sounds of the waves gently hitting the shore..the patter of naked feet across the the floor,,a breathe that fills the room with passion and the security of knowing ur with someone that wants to fullfill ur desires
»†«phøéb뻆« : i'd want to be blindfolded so i would have one sense eliminated so that the others become heightened
«heta»♥Atën : it's a beautiful place - everything is tuned out.
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : ohhh good ones Sonny
«heta»♥Atën : Lovely, Sonny Sir
«heta»♥Atën : i love blindfolds
Alchum : exactly, freshy. singlular thought. Mind honed on one thing...like a laser … to where you almost see nothing and notice nothing else.
freshy : and yet you feel every every, every, every thing, Alchum
Alchum : nods...to the deepest degree and know...KNOW...who you're feeling it for and why.
♠₣яέέ·Şŏŋŋỹ♠ : sometimes it is just as important to elevate the senses as it is to weave thru reality
freshy : you people are awesome!
♠₣яέέ·Şŏŋŋỹ♠ : speaking of being blindfolded....is there any greater feeling then to sit back and just feel....no sight...just feel
¤navy¤ : i like blindfolds...but i also think that being told not to open your eyes helps with the "mental bondage" and you've got to dig deep for the strength NOT to open them...if that makes sense
«heta»♥Atën : it does, navy
dǐxǐę¤bůŧŧęяfɭɣ : i dont care for blindfolds it hides the eyes
«heta»♥Atën : they help with tuning things out for me.
dǐxǐę¤bůŧŧęяfɭɣ : eyes speak more deeply and more profoundly than words ever could
freshy : sort of like the flogger is the jaws-of-life that cuts open the back -the thick skin of "life out there" and one is instantly vulnerable, viscerally tuning in to the Other and sensing everything the body can take it
«heta»♥Atën : Flogger + blindfold = nothing else exists but He and i.
Alchum : I was always a little more psychological, myself. But well put, freshy.
freshy loves the psychological part too
«heta»♥Atën : the psychological part is the most important part to me.
Sciicure : floggers can be much more subtle than any other toy I own … the slow rhythmic build up from the caress to the biting sting
¤navy¤ lets out a soft sigh....
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : ohhhh I could not agree more Sciicure it can be used in the most affectionate and gentle of ways ..... and be applied in the most brutal of ways
Alchum : football, star trek and psychology. *approving nod*
dǐxǐę¤bůŧŧęяfɭɣ : its easy to get lost blindfolded, to me much harder to focus when not...which adds to the special place im taken to...and to the discipline involved in getting there
freshy : ...the discipline involved in getting there... that's interesting
dǐxǐę¤bůŧŧęяfɭɣ : i guess blindfolding to me is kinda like running an obstacle course with the obstacles removed
«heta»♥Atën : i'd rather float away than to struggle for it
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : get's My vote heta
dǐxǐę¤bůŧŧęяfɭɣ : but there is discipline in the struggle … discipline is earned
Sciicure : why float when you can soar?
¤navy¤ : i think you've got to float...before you can soar
dǐxǐę¤bůŧŧęяfɭɣ : i dont know...it says something about a Master that can command His subs attention even with everything going on around her...and guide her where He wants her to be … but i guess im different that way
ﺼﺸ§hìftìñgWìñdﻌﻀ : well .... I'm not sure what it is that would be going on all around if it was she and I preparing for whatever was in store for the time
dǐxǐę¤bůŧŧęяfɭɣ : Yyou all have a good night
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♠₣яέέ·Şŏŋŋỹ♠ : no doubt for each it is different.....none is wrong or right.....what takes you to that higher lever is what is important … learning and experiencing with another is the goal
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